I have shot both, and prefer cut-rifled barrels. But the key fact is the extended barrel life of the .284 Win overcomes the increased bullet cost. We have 284 Winchester dies for sale, from great brands like Forster, Hornady, Lee, Lyman, RCBS, and Redding Reloading Products. WHIDSIZSN284SHE Product Manufacturer: Whidden Gunworks Whidden Gunworks Product Description: For precise, consistent OAL handloads, the internals of Whidden's sizing die are designed to keep your rounds . Powders include IMR, Hodgdon, Winchester I had a local gunsmith cut a thread on the muzzle brake for a tuner I got from Sid Goodling. It has also been the bases for several wildcats, including the 6mm-284, .284 Shehane, .30-284, .338-284, .35-284, .375-284 and others. Darrell can neck-turn any size case to your specified neck-wall thickness. Single digit ES (Extreme Spread) is the goal. 'https://ssl' : 'http://www') + '.google-analytics.com/ga.js'; Rifle SpecificationsAll the Hardware Henry told us: I want to share every lesson Ive learned, so that other guys can improve their game and enjoy the sport more. Henry also wants to encourage other senior shooters: If you pay attention to details (when reloading), and get a good rifle with a good barrel, age is not a handicap. The "new" 284 Winchester on left is handloaded to exceed its SAAMI overall length for a custom fit in a long-throat barrel. Report by Emil Kovan We offer new reloding data for: .284 Winchester, with bullets: 140 grs / 9,1 gram Nosler E-Tip 150 grs / 9,7 gram Hornady ELD-X After that I play a little with seating depth and look for a change. The only cons I can find are that 284 brass is kinda hard to find! The turnaround is usually less than five days. Bill Shehane developed a wildcat (.284 Shehane) different shoulder angle (a little more case capacity). Jerry said go for it and, as it turned out, the rifle delivered the velocity I wanted, plus extraordinary accuracy to boot. NOTE: If youre skeptical of those single-digit chron readings, click on the Video Playback screen below to view Ballard test-firing a load that delivers an ES of 5 and SD of 2 for five shots. This eye-catching F-Open rifle was crafted by Blake Barrel and Rifle in Arizona. Second I visited his shop during the SWN in February and liked what I observed and how he approached things. (function() { Thanks for reading and good luck Emil Kovan, Share the post "Best F-Class Cartridge Choices For Mid-Range and Long-Range". Custom-made dies should size the case just right, but sometimes the dies internal dimensions are slightly off, and this leads to problem number two: dies sizing too much (or even worse) too little. Go to page. Is the .284 Shehane Inherently Accurate? It had 2000 as a straight .284 Win and then I set it back to .284 Shehane to form brass with. I shot my best-ever 1K Heavy Gun group (3.348) at days end after 60 to 80 rounds. Thats a $.25 per round difference, equivalent to a 60% savings for the .284. Ray keeps Jewell triggers in stock so the only piece left to acquire was the scope. Starting at just $20 per 100 cases ($25/100 for magnum cases), Darrells company, DJs Brass, will anneal your used brass using the impressive Bench-Source annealing machines. And the job gets done quickly. After record fire begins I shoot very fast, holding off for the wind. And Darrells turn-around time is typically very fast. Whats the water volume of the case? I dont primarily shoot for groups. Case Prep: I start with Lapua 6.5284 brass necked up to .284 with an expander mandrel. Heres my advice: This cleaning and annealing process is included in the $0.60 (sixty cents) per case price thats all part of the Hydro-forming service. The gun gets transported in a Pelican Hard case when I travel. 6.5-284 (Hodgdon Data) reloading data with 196 loads. Home. The paper tells the rest of the story. Since I have only reloaded for hunting or magazine fed rifles I was not familiar with proper seating to allow land engagement of the bullets for 1000-yard accuracy. Here are some of our favorite Pride and Joy rifles recently showcased in our Forum. I am an average 1000-yard shooter, but I do work hard getting the most out of my rifles. He is a great shooter and a great gun-builder as well. Im getting 2930-2950 fps with spreads in the 3-5 fps range. Eventually, at the end of my last string, the gun blew a few primers. About the Patriotic Paint Job I loaned my Dasher to another shooter two years ago and he got second at the 600-yard Nationals. My straight .284 almost required me to stand up to eject brass. I use Lapua brass (6.5-284 necked-up), CCI BR-2 primers, Hodgdon H4350 powder, and Berger 184gr bullets. 1000-yard shooting keeps us all humble, but we still keep trying to see how good we can do. This rig scored second place in its very first match, a 320 at 1000 yards in Wyoming. Henry: I try to keep my charge weights consistent to one kernel of powder. I am thankful for Robert Ross providing the only match location that I can shoot regularly. This barrel has 2200 rounds through it. My load came back together with 54.5 grains of H4831sc. I use a bore guide when anything goes down the barrel. I have a concrete bench using a slab from a yard furniture place on concrete blocks. Lower center of gravity equals less torque, and that is very important when shooting heavy bullets in fast twist barrels. I bought a BAT three lug from Tom Mousel in Montana. Register for the Forum and you can add your favorite gun to the list. We started with all white on the stock and came up with the idea of an American Flag on the buttstock. Jays metal-work is so precise that I can screw any barrel hes chambered to any BAT action I own. _gaq.push(['_trackPageview']); The key here is both calibres are going to shoot around the 2850fps mark accurately with good case and barrel life. I only test, keeping a notebook with all the info. Straight .284 or Shehane you cannot go wrong. Congratulations to the new F-Class Champions. Using 24-inch pressure barrels, maximum velocities for the .284 Win. I use Redding bushing dies, apply Imperial sizing wax, resize, wipe off wax, clean and uniform the primers pockets using the RCBS Trim Mate Case prep center, then apply Imperial dry neck lube with a bore mop. With a good set-up, older guys can compete with anyone out there. Ill make my wind call while the target is in the pits; if my previous shot went where I thought it would I will take my next shot as soon as the target stops. Thanks Cody! After he cleans his barrel, Joel knows it takes two or three shots to foul in the bore before accuracy returns. Best powders in most barrels are Varget and H4350, I dont use double-based powders such as Reloder 17 and the Vihtavuori N500 series because of their unpredictable performance day to day (greater temp sensitivity). My load for all barrels is 52g 2209 with 180vlds. This has proven to be a valuable tool in my load development. Henrys Championship-winning rig is shown below. I was sold! You must log in or register to reply here. JavaScript is disabled. This was sent that to Bryan Blake at Blake Machine. As we commenced load development, Jerry Tierneys .284 Win load data posted on this 6mmBR.com gave us a good starting point. I usually start to consider tossing the brass around 15 firings. Many records have been shot with both button-rifled, and cut-rifled barrels. I tried some, accepting some and rejecting some. He formed the brass and had it in the mail the next day[.] This gun hammers with 105gr Berger Hybrids., Courtesy Forum member Dan H., here are two red-stocked Dashers plus an Anschutz 54.30 (Benchrest Stock) to make it a trio. Heres another handsome .284 Shehane F-Open rifle. Ryan is using 54.0 grains simply as a fire-forming load. recoil reduction system (hydraulic-damped buttpad), Bix N Andy trigger, and Nightforce Competition scope. Using bullets from Sierra HP, Hornady V-Max, Nosler BT, Sierra HPBT, Swift SP, Hornady SP, Nosler AB, Speer GS-SP, Hornady RN. That all paid off when Henry won the 2013 IBS 1000-yard Nationals this summer, finishing as the Two-Gun Overall National Champion. Bryan did all the stock work and fitted the action, rails, and RAD recoil pad. In Long-Range F-Open Class (out to 1000 yards), the big, high-BC bullets rule. For these posed photos, he removed his safety glasses. Would love to read more about the Shehane, as apparently Sabatti has three factory rifles (Evo, TLD and STR Sport) to offer in this cartridge: https://www.sabatti.it/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/Catalogo2020En.pdf. In this match I found the first weakness in my beloved .284. What is not to love about the 284 Shehane? This allows me to use the center as my primary hold. My fireform loads are going 2765 FPS. The .284 Win is currently dominating in F-Open competition. We mourn his passing.]. Joel currently works as the Supplier Quality Process Engineer for MMI-TruTec, a company that offers barrel surface coatings that can further extend your barrel life. My load with 180 bergers for my 284 shehane was 56.5g of 4831sc, but it started to show pressure after it had about 200 rounds through it, I backed it of to 56.0g with no problems. You Better Believe It. I use about four patches of Carb-Out, let it sit a few minutes, then use one stroke of a nylon brush followed by Patch-Out until the barrel is clean. So I only have to apologize about some red flakes in our bathroom., We like this handsome quilted Maple-stocked Mauser belonging to Forum member Steel Mover. By fire-forming a couple cases after each barrel-cleaning during a match, by the end of the weekend Ive got a dozen or more freshly fire-formed cases to put into the rotation. The 6.5 caliber allowed for the use of long, aerodynamic bullets. With a 5-wide hammerhead front and a special 3-wide bag-rider plate in the rear, this 17-lb rig is ultra-stable in the bags, and tracks like a dream. The Ultimate F-Open Rig The 6.5 and 300 stayed consistently within an inch of each other. We had three shooters and each rifle was fired simultaneously with no-wind zeros on three separate targets set at 1000 yards. Here are the team members, with Grizzly President Shiraz Balolia top left and coach Trudie Fay in the middle. The update also features a lot of new lines for existing calibers. Forum member Grimstod posted this nice 6BRX in a scenic setting: Bill Goad at Premier Accuracy crated this fantastic 6BRX. That enhancement makes a BIG difference. Cost Comparison: .284 Win vs. 6.5-284 Grimstod currently runs 95gr Berger VLDs in Lapua brass. Big accuracy windows allow loads to perform well in different conditions and geographical locations. Q: What kind of precision are you looking for in your reloads? Henry also runs a combo tuner/muzzle-brake. _gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-6323545-2']); The rifle is fitted with a red dot sight, ammo caddies, Ranger Point M-LOK handguard, and a modernized modular buttstock. Free Shipping On Orders Over $99! var s = document.getElementsByTagName('script')[0]; s.parentNode.insertBefore(ga, s); I feel that the best option (if available) for shooters interested in wildcat chambers is to have their gunsmiths make the dies. guidelines the .284 Winchester case can handle up to 440 MPa (63,816 psi) piezo pressure. We can expand your necks from .22 caliber to .30 caliber and anneal shoulders for consistent bump-back. Over the span of 3,000 rounds, thats a $540.00 savings. Duane decided to use a BAT M action for this rifle, and I think that he could not have made a better choice. Sunday Gunday: December Pride & Joy Rifles, Sunday Gunday: Pride & Joy Guns of Summer from Our Forum, Sunday GunDay: .284 Shehanes for F-Open Competition, Save Time and Bullets Fire-Form with your Fouler Shots, Save Time and Barrel Life Let DJs Hydro-Form Your Brass, CLICK HERE for MORE INFO on Hydro-Forming Cartridge Brass, Accurate Cartridges The .284 Shehane, an Improved .284 Win, Sunday GunDay: Back-to-Back Championship Winning .284 Win, Sunday GunDay: We the People .284 Shehane F-Open Rifle, .284 Shehane Winning Wildcat for F-Open Competition, Hydro-Forming, Annealing, Neck-Turning by DJs Brass, Hail the Champions: 2018 F-Class Nationals at Raton, NM, Best F-Class Cartridge Choices For Mid-Range and Long-Range, Henrys Hammer State-of-the-Art .284 Shehane for 1K BR, Is the .284 Shehane Inherently Accurate? Ian loaded Berger 200.20X Hybrid bullets in Lapua brass with Vihtavuori N140 powder and CCI BR4s. I loaded 44 rounds using 55.0 grains of H4831sc. The 284 Shehane is amazing, very forgiving and not temperamental. My first impression was Wow thats a long stock the forearm is significantly longer than on the original Master Class F-Class prone stock. Hydro-forming by Darrell costs $0.60 (sixty cents) per case with a minimum order of $60. Thats where the .284 Shehane comes into play. If you need formed brass for a new build (gun not yet fired), let me know and I will size the brass to fit within .001 of a PT&G GO gauge.. The stock was finished in gloss black per the customers request. The cost of reloading the .284 Win is roughly $.07 more per round than that of the 6.5-284. But in reality, on average, the .223 Rem, regardless of what powder/bullet combo is used, cannot compete with the .308 Win. All this being said, if a man wanted just one caliber for F-Class, long-range benchrest, and hunting, I would still suggest the .284 Win. The 284 is already a pretty straight case and comes with a 35 shoulder so I'm not sure it would be worth the extra time and money to blow it out to a 40. Norm Harrold (above) won the 2018 USA F-Class Nationals shooting a .284 Shehane. The 7 SAUM has a punch to it and I found myself having trouble finishing three relays without form problems in the last relay. The stocks track perfectly. History [ edit] The parent case .284 Winchester was created around 1963, but did not see extensive commercial use. He decided to go with a Brux 1:8.5-twist, 4-groove cut-rifled barrel. as is and can be made as light as 3lbs. This article covers only the (currently) most popular cartridge/bullet combos for F-Class (F-Open and F-TR). If you are unsure whether this rod guide is for your rifle, please give us a call or shoot us an email. NOTE: Darrell offers Free Annealing with hydro-forming services, which starts at $60 per 100 cases. In matches with unlimited sighters, I generally hold dead center with a no-wind zero and use the point of impact as feedback. He covers sighter strategies and techniques for record fire, and he also explains, in detail, how he dopes the wind and judges hold-offs based on mirage. If you were loading in a short action, maybe the 162 grain bullets would be the ones to go for. If you do this with your fouler shots you get your fire-forming accomplished without using up any extra barrel life.. I then push one wet patch of Eliminator through the bore and leave it. Then the 180gr bullets are seated using a Redding Competition Seating Die. I was able to easily get 3200 fps with 105 hybrids and H4350. In this game, we older guys can definitely compete on a par with younger shooters.