!, for a long time he did hate wwx, and still wants to hate him, however, 'He shouldve been able to loathe Wei WuXian without a care. Jiang Wanyin did not like to think about the nature of the two men's relationship, but he could not deny that nowadays Lan Wangji was the closest person to his former brother. (Chapter 59)And protecting the Wen Remnants wasn't anything difficult, Nie Mingjue and Lan Xichen asked about the debt and Jiang Wanyin just had to tell about Wen Qing and Wen Ning risking their lives to save them, (since Nie Mingjue original words were over Wen Qing's inaction, when she in fact took action when she saved the two, that was treason against her sect, had nmj and lxc known about the treason and that her branch was innocent, they would have definitely stepped in) Its highlighted with Jin Guangshan fanning his jealousy issues, he didn't want to speak up, rather than a political issue, the sects at the time are envious that he has Wei Wuxian, a powerful necromancer in his sect, meaning they do have power. But I have noticed, neither in the donghua nor the novel was it ever confirmed that he died from the backfire of his army. What i mean is that i am not sure how much "time" he have to deal with this guilt. This leaves me with the question about how did Wei Wuxian actually die? MXTX, can't you just throw me a bone here? He also suggests that she ask Wei Wuxian to choose a courtesy name for her future son. he just feels like a clown now. Even if JC told "WWX i lost my golden core to protect you, you brat!" No resolution for WWX and JC. Yes it also mentions that he was torn apart. It reminds me of Goro Akechi in Persona 5 in terms of the fans who don't like him being reductive of his trauma. Jiang Cheng walked up and started stabbing the rocks that were beneath Lan Zhan. in the novel and donghua, wwx destroyed the stygian seal just before he died, the seal that held control over the corpses. hahaha, let's have a look at JC's feelings by the end of the novel shall we Just how much do you owe the Jiang Sect? She then sens the two away, while Jiang Cheng desperately struggles. Now that's all the numbers of reasons I think Jiang Cheng wronged Wei Wuxian and others mainly because he was choosing to look the other way or because he was acting like a spoiled brat. Since he was "seventeen already" during the massacre at Lotus Pier, he is approximately Wei Wuxian's age only a few months younger (Courage, Part). .FIYolDqalszTnjjNfThfT{max-width:256px;white-space:normal;text-align:center} [27], Jiang Cheng allows the survivors to return to Lotus Pier to recover their spiritual power, and did not forbid Wei Wuxian from accompanying them. Adaptation Deviation: Wei Wuxian encounters Jiang Cheng under different circumstances from the novel, partly due to him saving Jin Ling from the curse earlier than the original.In this episode he encounters Jiang Cheng right after saving the teen, thanks to Fairy finding him. ._12xlue8dQ1odPw1J81FIGQ{display:inline-block;vertical-align:middle} No, he doesn't hate Wei Wuxian, but I don't think the brotherly love is there anymore. Jiang Yanli (, Jing Ynl) was the elder sister of Jiang Cheng and the elder sworn sister of Wei Wuxian. But, Jiang Cheng may have wanted to somewhat mend their relationship or at least reconcile with Wei Wu Xian though he doesnt know how to go about it, what with all the history between them o-o. Male Official JC is a Sect Leader. S1, Ep1. In the novel, he gets chased by Fairy while looking for Jin Ling to fix the curse, which is how he runs into not only . Episode #1.1. Jiang Cheng. [31], During this time, he also co-parents the orphaned Jin Ling alongside Jin Guangyao. jiangcheng, mdzs, weiying. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I'd have to argue that Jiang Wanyin know's it isn't Wei Wuxian's fault, even he knew the Wen's were going to come anyway, Cloud Recesses had been burned down, the war had been declared, "In his heart, Jiang Cheng knew clearly that back in the care of the Xuanwu of Slaughter at Dusk-Creek Mountain, even if Wei Wuxian hadn't saved Lan Wangji, the Wen Sect would have found some reason to come over sooner of later." Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Wei Wuxian did have a gap in his memory in between using the seal in the battle of the nightless city and returning to the bottom of the Burial Mound, but he could remember what happened after . And It's a pretty shitty state trust me I think time can heal many things. him never being able to surpass Wei Wu Xian skills wise and living up to the Yunmeng Jiang Sects motto of To attempt the impossible; and how his choice to go out and draw the attention of the Wen Sects lackeys away from Wei Wu Xian resulted in the destruction of his own golden core, among other things. [44], Jiang Cheng clangs two swords together to overpower the sound of Jin Guangyao's guqin. It all started with a letter from Gusu, asking for the hand of the YunMeng Omega in marriage. After seeing that Wei Wuxian is determined to restore the consciousness of Wen Ning's Fierce Corpse, he and Wei Wuxian quarrel more, until Wei Wuxian insists on leaving the Yunmeng Jiang Clan to protect them from trouble. Media In what manner, i dont know. He didnt realize how lan zhan felt or maybe he would have hung on. ._3oeM4kc-2-4z-A0RTQLg0I{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-pack:justify;justify-content:space-between} While he's waiting for Jiang Cheng, people from Qishan Wen Clan including Wen Chao found him. I think that the "revived Wei Wuxian" was suposed to be different, not just because he died once, but because it is the first time we see the adult version of him that is not under the influence of the stygian seal and dark energies. Join the online community, create your anime and manga list, read reviews, explore the forums, follow news, and so much more! He also took Wei Wuxian under his care as his ward, raising him alongside his own children. If Wei Wuxian regained consciousness he would need his presence more than anyone's else. [33] But when Jin Ling is nearly killed by the Heavenly Maiden, Jiang Cheng berates him for not calling for help. [5], After Jin Zixuan insults Jiang Yanli and expresses his dissatisfaction with his engagement to her, Jiang Cheng intends to punch him. [39], As more corpses approached, Jin Ling wished for Jiang Cheng to comfort him, but the closest Jiang Cheng came was giving his nephew Zidian, much like his mother had given it once to him. [30], Jiang Cheng takes Jin Ling in search of the man-eating castles rumored to be near Qinghe. A subreddit dedicated to fans, by fans, of all versions and adaptations of Mo Dao Zu Shi! [9], Yu Ziyuan pulls Jiang Cheng over to her side and insists that Jiang Fengmian remember which boy is his son. 27 Jun. Manhua Wei Wu Xian confirmed that he did not die from Jiang Cheng's hand and Lan Wang Ji confirmed that he knew Wei Wu Xian did not die from his army. They were like brothers before everything after all. Thanks for your reply and dont apologize, your English is perfect :). I'm more anxious. 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At Langya, he has to stop Wei Wuxian from beating Jin Zixuan after a misunderstanding with Jiang Yanli pushes her to tears. In the end, Jiang Yanli has to carry both boys to Lotus Pier on her back, as both have injured their legs. >!He felt completely betrayed that WWX left him to be with the Wen remnants. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. [16], On the fourth day, he and Lan Wangji finally catch Wen Chao and Wen Zhuliu in a courier station. Why? In the untamed Jiang Cheng killed him by pushing him off the cliff. Wei Wuxian returned to his home after finishing his training at the Gusu Lan Sect, and a series of disastrous events made him give away his spiritual power to save the life of his martial brother, Jiang Cheng. But he cannot because he knows it was motivated by good intentions and righteous actions. He captures him and keeps Fairy close while he interrogates him. He has no sworn brotherhood with ANY other sect, meanwhile the Gusu Lan, Qinghe Nie and Lanling Jin do. That's literally the reason why Jiang Cheng had his little hobby of hunting and torturing demonic cultivators all those years: Like with Mo Xuanyu, he suspected them of being possessed by Wei Wuxian. It would explain why each version differs . Jiang Cheng and Lan Wangji navigate life after Wei Wuxian's death and are forced together by fate (Nie Huaisang) before choosing to stay by each other's side. That's why he suffered so much. They are then saved by Wei Wuxian's return as a demonic cultivator. I was expecting it, anticipating it even. When Jiang Cheng leaves to hunt Wen Ning, Jin Ling frees Wei Wuxian[35] and flees before his uncle's return. Even finding out the truth about his core didn't really make him be nicer to WWX, tho the drama suggests so. Perhaps visiting each other, having get togethers with Jin Ling, or having good conversations at family events without bitting word fueled with regret, pain, or harmful intent. But we'll see when they complete all 3 seasons . The book also mentioned that the 4 clans had tried to summon his soul after he died, but he did not respond. In the untamed Jiang Cheng killed him by pushing him off the cliff. Do I deserve to be blinded by all your dazzling splendor?! Press J to jump to the feed. He returns to the living world in the body of Mo Xuanyu . Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. [51], He learns of the golden core transfer after the Guanyin Temple incident, and they leave before he breaks down in tears. As you all know Madame yu is the former Matriarch of Yungmeng Jiang and the wife of Jiang Fengmian and mother to Jiang Cheng, Jiang Yangli and the adopted mother to Wei Wuxian. [48], Before Wei Wuxian and Lan Wangji elope, Jiang Cheng considers telling Wei Wuxian that he had gotten caught by the Wens to save him, but finds himself unable to speak the words. An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works I would guess he started to feel betrayed especially when he saw WWX with LWJ because he would have thought that WWX would come find him first. An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works Yilin Patriarch Wei Wuxian died in the battle with three biggest clans happened in No Night City. Have you seen the manga or the cartoon? , Although Jiang Cheng always dislikes Wei Wuxian, he actually cares about Wei Wuxian very much. three poisons; a Buddhist phrase for the root of all turmoil (greed, anger, ignorance) shngshu skilled practitioner, Jiang Cheng was born the second child of Yu Ziyuan and Jiang Fengmian. This could be MXTX being very subtle and leaving readers room to interpret, or it could just not be what she wanted to focus on. Absolutely. So I think he still loves WWX in the way that people love their siblings no matter what. [56], Hikaru Midorikawa (animation, audio drama, web series). I think JC stabs the rock out of frustration, but it started to dislodge a piece. He was Wei Ying, courtesy name Wei WuXian. I need to know if they'll be okay! Some of it, like the Wen's attacking really wasn't anyone fault at all. As a skilled doctor, Wen Qing treats Jiang Cheng but requests that they leave quickly, lest she fall under suspicion. I think his strongest feeling was jealousy and envy which was influenced from his mom. "Wei Wuxian, what are you trying to do?" "That's kind of you, Clan Leader Jin, but I won't sit. WWX thinks if LWJ continues to hold on, they will both fall so he uses that moment to rip his arm out of LWJ's grip. He hates himself for not living up to what his mother wanted him to be what he thinks his father wanted, he hates himself for not being able to be what WWX represents. [16], Jiang Cheng uses Zidian to strangle Wen Zhuliu and defends Wei Wuxian from the appalled Lan Wangji. Jiang Cheng is then captured and forced to seal his spiritual power. JC had almost no time at all to process this information by the time they met at the temple. No Archive Warnings Apply; Ln Zhn | Ln Wngj/Wi Yng | Wi Wxin; Ln Yun | Ln Szhu & Wi Yng | Wi Wxin & Wn Nng | Wn Qingln & Wn [36], When Qin Su kills herself in the secret treasure room of Golden Carp Tower, Jiang Cheng angrily demands an explanation. We encourage members to share their thoughts, fanworks, news and more! ._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4{width:100%}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4:hover ._31L3r0EWsU0weoMZvEJcUA{display:none}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4 ._31L3r0EWsU0weoMZvEJcUA,._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4:hover ._11Zy7Yp4S1ZArNqhUQ0jZW{display:block}._1LHxa-yaHJwrPK8kuyv_Y4 ._11Zy7Yp4S1ZArNqhUQ0jZW{display:none} Anyway, I just have to remind myself that the author doesn't actually owe us anything so I'll just have to make do with what she gave us. after the golden core reveal, he can no long justify his reasons for hating wwx. Jiang Cheng hurries back to Yunmeng on foot, and he and Jiang Fengmian return to save them seven days later. But right now, the golden core revolving within him took away all that confidence.'. Jiang Fengmian was also the father-in-law of Jin Zixuan and the maternal grandfather of Jin Ling. And to those who like Jiang Cheng I hope you . Because he's his brother and he KNOWS his brother. !<, I look at that scene differently. Manhua [11], When Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian return that night, they find the entire clan massacred, including Jiang Fengmian and Yu Ziyuan. She married Jin Zixuan and bore their child Jin Ling. And to those who like Jiang Cheng I hope you . Yes. He also hates why Wei Wuxian has come back. [17], After Wei Wuxian's return, Jiang Cheng leads the war on the Jianglian front[18] before approaching Langya to aid Jin Guangshan. But the way Wei WuXian was acting, it seems, the Whole cultivation world going to doom alongside him. He then reveals that he has brought Wei Wuxian's flute Chenqing and tosses it to him. Even if JC shouted that to the whole world, it wouldn't matter simply because WWX blindly gave his golden core to JC. [14], Jiang Cheng becomes the leader of the Yunmeng Jiang Clan and begins recruiting disciples to join his clan and their rebellion against the Qishan Wen Clan. We encourage members to share their thoughts, fanworks, news and more! That you can't bring back someone who doesn't have the will to live. Very interesting! Title Did Jiang fengmian love Jiang Cheng? I havent thought about that before and that kind of perspective is definitely consistent with his character! JC has always been envious of WWX because of the perceived favour he held in his fathers eyes and because of the poisoning his mother subjected him to. I feel like we could have seen a lot more growth from WWX, but because his emotional struggle wasnt explored, I feel he didnt really grow as a person. They know who he is. Discussion Conference at Golden Carp Tower, More Grandmaster of Demonic Cultivation Wiki. However, when Jin Guangyao implies that he has long known of the golden core transfer, Jiang Cheng's composure slips. He was willing to be tortured to death for him and still stood by him even after WWX publicly humiliated him/their sect, acted like an ass for "no reason", abandoned their sect to protect virtual strangers. Jiang Cheng then turns his wrath on Jin Ling, while Jin Guangyao tries and fails to pacify him. In my interpretation, Wei Ying realised that if he didn't let him go, Lan Zhan would fall as well so with all his strength he threw Lan Zhan's arm up and let himself fall to save him. Clan ", So, he isn't enemies with him, that is for sure, yet they both need time to put the name of their current relationship. And as a personal aside, it genuinely pisses me off that as lot of fans who don't like JC are very reductive of him. So use WWX's ages at signficant events. JC is a very realistic and relatable personality, which means he's complicated and his emotions aren't all that straightforward. Birth Name Currently, the original novel by MXTX ( | M Xing Tng Xi) has been adapted into a donghua, manhua, audio drama and live action! He also insisted on keeping his surname. He is now a Jiang, the most coveted omega of his generation all throughout the kingdom of YunMeng, second to none. If you look at JC's actions, if he truly hated WWX and wanted to kill him, even before the golden core he could have easily murdered him with Zidian or tortured him if he wanted to, he specifically chose not to because he can't because he loves him, imo. JYL IS marrying JZX, but remember, this is (psudo) ancient China: as a women Yanli doesn't have much political leverage. He finds it creepy. What if he realised he was so alone and then comited suicide. Although he does acknowledge his fault in everything, it's kind of glossed over and it seems like most of the fandom chooses to ignore it. [28], During the night hunt on Dafan Mountain, Jiang Cheng helps set up the Deity-Binding Nets to give Jin Ling an advantage over the other cultivators. He learnt that WWX was set up, imagine that; JC resented for 13-16 years and then suddenly learnt that his senior brother was innocent. "Shush. I feel like in simpler terms, he hates that he can't hate wwx, and he feels guilty that he can't love him either. It would be hard to not resent WWX after all that, and theres definitely some complex emotions between the two of them. This would have also had to be censored. [37], After over a hundred junior disciples, including Jin Ling, are kidnapped and taken to the Burial Mounds, Jiang Cheng leads a second siege against the Yiling Patriarch. JC has a lot to process, a lot to swallow. Jiang Fengmian (Father, deceased)Yu Ziyuan (Mother, deceased)Jiang Yanli (Older sister, deceased)Wei Wuxian (Senior martial brother, former)Jin Ling (Nephew)Jin Zixuan (Brother-in-law, deceased) Plus if he really wanted him dead, he had the perfect opportunity while LWJ was holding him but he deliberately missed. No "Do you need any help, or just some silent company?" JC only calls dogs to scares him out but trust me, he would never kill him. Its confusing because the animation and drama do not seem to follow the novel strictly. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. As with any tragic hero, Ning's irreversible mistake is surrendering himself to the Jin Sect in an effort to help Wei Wuxian. She embraces Jiang Cheng, appoints him the owner of the weapon, and requests that Wei Wuxian promise to protect Jiang Cheng with his life. To his dismay, Yu Ziyuan orders the doors closed. Bait-and-Switch: When Jiang Fengmian first appeared, the first thing he did was firmly tell Wei Wuxian to kneel properly (as part of his punishment for punching Jin Zixuan), and he gave Jiang Cheng a stern look when the latter protested to his suggestion to dissolve Jiang Yanli's engagement. But he could do nothing but listen. Novel I wish they had more scenes where LZ and WWX talked their feelings out before they got together. @keyframes _1tIZttmhLdrIGrB-6VvZcT{0%{opacity:0}to{opacity:1}}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd,.HQ2VJViRjokXpRbJzPvvc{--infoTextTooltip-overflow-left:0px;font-size:12px;font-weight:500;line-height:16px;padding:3px 9px;position:absolute;border-radius:4px;margin-top:-6px;background:#000;color:#fff;animation:_1tIZttmhLdrIGrB-6VvZcT .5s step-end;z-index:100;white-space:pre-wrap}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd:after,.HQ2VJViRjokXpRbJzPvvc:after{content:"";position:absolute;top:100%;left:calc(50% - 4px - var(--infoTextTooltip-overflow-left));width:0;height:0;border-top:3px solid #000;border-left:4px solid transparent;border-right:4px solid transparent}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd{margin-top:6px}._3uK2I0hi3JFTKnMUFHD2Pd:after{border-bottom:3px solid #000;border-top:none;bottom:100%;top:auto} Both leave the duel cursing each other. It should have been a simple story with a happy ending. [15], Jiang Cheng flees the scene and spends the rest of the night running amok at Lotus Pier, demanding to know if any cultivators besides him can unsheathe Suibian. He even asks Wei Wuxian about how he died. But then why would he try to exorcise Wei Wuxian's spirit by using Zidian on Mo Xuanyu? Personal Information And the way he's told about the golden core is the most cruel way you can possibly tell someone about it: he's publicly humiliated and it's used as a weapon to tell him that he's worthless and stupid. Besides I don't know what to think about this falling scene. She could, with time, especially once JZX takes over but that;s time JC doesn't have. In addition, WWX is a threat to the cultivation world: if he can rip Wen Rohan to shreads, who's to say he won't turn on everyone else? When he attempts to sneak back inside, he is caught by Lan Wangji. ._2Gt13AX94UlLxkluAMsZqP{background-position:50%;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-size:contain;position:relative;display:inline-block} Wei Ying ( Wi Yng), courtesy name Wei Wuxian (, Wi Wxin) is the founder of the Demonic Cultivation and a former disciple of the Yunmeng Jiang Sect. Jin Ling runs away after a fight one morning, and by the time Jiang Cheng finds him, Jin Ling declines to tell his uncle that "Mo Xuanyu" has saved him from being eaten by the Stone Castles. Two days later, Lan Wangji returns, explaining that the talismans summon evil, rather than oppose it. He was especially ticked off when his sister Jiang Yanli was killed when trying to protect Wei Wuxian, the result of which left him with no blood relatives anymore. Yu Ziyuan is infuriated, and turns her anger on her son when he defends Wei Wuxian, reminding him that Wei Wuxian still surpasses him in cultivation. However, he happened upon Jiang Cheng violently whipping a demonic cultivator he had captured, and he was so scared that he fled. Wei Wuxian probably feels better ultimately now that he knows that Jiang Cheng knows the truth. He uses Zidian in an attempt to expel Wei Wuxian's soul, though the technique fails because Wei Wuxian's soul has not actually possessed Mo Xuanyu's body. The Land of Death: With Jiang Bian, Kei Gambit, Ketsu. before (or even as he was) dying he destroyed the amulet. He follows his Wei Wuxian to the ancestral hall of their clan and confronts Wei Wuxian about his role in the deaths of Jiang Fengmian, Yu Ziyuan, and Jiang Yanli, as well as his relationship with Lan Wangji. Everyone is ultimately saved by the fierce corpses of the remnants of the Qishan Wen Clan killed during the First Siege. He and Wei Wuxian then watch in shock as Yu Ziyuan slaps Wang Lingjiao while Jinzhu and Yinzhu kill the Wen cultivators accompanying her. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. He hated those people and felt WWX was siding with his parents murderers. First Lan zhan point out that the evidence at burial mounds didnt match up with the official story. I mean come on @author, imagine the pain you could have made us readers feel! Audio Drama (JP) Web Series Wei Ying (, Wi Yng), courtesy name Wei Wuxian (, Wi Wxin) is the founder of Demonic Cultivation and a former disciple of the Yunmeng Jiang Clan. Ive also read a lot of other Chinese novels with a similar premise and I can say that other authors have delved a lot into emotions and characters inner turmoil, unlike in MDZS the novel. 185 cm But he doesn't. Although the presence of Hanguang-jun did help Wei Wuxian somewhat, it was far from enough. Since Wei Wuxian's parents died, he grew up in Jiangjia, so he got to know Jiang Cheng and Jiang Yanli. [1], As a child, Jiang Cheng has three puppies named "Jasmine," "Princess," and "Love. They have no weapons, they are being led to an underground cavethey were all children, including her own son, her sworn sister's son who would have been her daughters future husband.